Another week, another badly timed episode of Box of Neutrals. We talk to Ben Edwards about everything up to Fernando Alonso’s F1 retirement – and his weird retirement video – and Carlos Sainz’s move to McLaren. Peter McGinley confuses ‘Holden’ for ‘beer’.

Featuring Ben Edwards, lead commentator for C4 in the UK. We reflect on the 2017 season, on whether Ferrari can survive without creating a crisis and, briefly, on the new logo and why we shouldn’t talk about the new logo.